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I stood in the windy desert of Nevada watching one vehicle after the next launch out of the inflatable arch and into the sand ahead. Cheers and engine blips marked each exit from the Rebelle Rally base camp. These women were heading out into the unknown with nothing more than a map and a pencil to guide them. It was pretty badass.

The Rebelle Rally takes place every fall. Unlike most rallies, it’s not about catching epic air in the sand or screaming past crowds of fans at breakneck speeds. The Rebelle is all about navigation and time management. Getting from one point to the next as accurately as possible without missing any points in between. Based purely on a compass and map. No GPS, no apps. All while traversing some of the most unforgiving terrain in the western United States.

I went to see the 2025 Rebelle Rally launch to find out what goes on behind the scenes to make this competition happen. The logistics are unfathomable. Unless your name is Emily Miller. She has a firm grip on it and she’s the one who started the Rebelle 10 years ago. She’s the one who has assembled a team to figure it all out. Emily juggles a thousand different things to make this competition one of the greatest rallies in the world.

“We’ve found the right people,” Miller told me. “They came just at the right time and exactly when they were needed. Most of us have been here since this started 10 years ago.”

This year’s Rebelle started on Mammoth Mountain in California and then went into the Nevada desert, turning south. It’s over 2,500 km (1,553 miles) of don’t-turn-there-or-you’ll-get-stuck driving as teams compete for points. The points come from hitting checkpoints: some with flags, some with small markers, and some with nothing at all. There are even some fakes just to play mind games with competitors.

Over the eight-day competition, Rebelle teams climb and descend dunes, mountains, scrubland, rocks, and dry lakes, all while plotting their route with just map and compass, using navigation techniques that haven’t changed much since horse and wagon were the fastest modes of transport. The rally, which is a women’s-only competition, draws manufacturers and independents in large numbers. This year, 67 teams of two took the field, most in unmodified vehicles.

67 vehicles for the 2025 Rebelle Rally competition stage outside of a ski lodge on Mammoth Mountain to kick off the competition

Aaron Turpen / New Atlas

Ford Broncos, Jeeps, and Land Rover models were the most common, but a smattering of Honda, Subaru, and other makes were also present. The competition has three categories, with two four-wheel drive and one all-wheel drive set. The 4WD sets are divided by team experience and past event scoring, with those with a stronger history in the Rebelle getting the tougher checkpoints of the two.

Behind the scenes, though, technology is everywhere. While competitors are out there with pencils and paper maps, those putting on the rally are behind computer screens and utilizing satellites and advanced communications. It’s best pictured as a movie-style military field tent with screens and digital maps and people calling out random-sounding numbers to one another. Except this isn’t Hollywood.

“We had to figure out how to score it,” Miller said. “We couldn’t do it manually. We wanted to make sure that there was not a human bias that would impact the score.” This eventually led to sponsorship from Iridium, whose satellites and communications are key to the rally’s scoring and tracking.

Iridium’s team showed me how this works. Tracking happens on several levels, with redundancy. Each vehicle has two ways to be tracked and are pinged roughly every two minutes to get location readings. This is primarily for safety and is passive from the competitors’ perspective. Each team also has a satellite phone for emergency use to call the Rebelle organizers. Using those two things allows emergency response to pinpoint the vehicle’s location and send responders immediately. This can range from medical to mechanical. These GPS locators send three to four thousand data points daily during the competition. According to Iridium, the Rebelle uses more types of satellite equipment than even the U.S. military.

Competitors use hand-held tracking devices to send in checkpoints. When the team thinks it’s on the right checkpoint, they click a button on their satellite communicator. It immediately pinpoints their exact coordinates and sends that to the scoring system. The team receives a notification on the device that their transmission was received and then continues on. The whole process takes seconds.

Once out on the course, teams must find their checkpoints and then mark them officially with this handheld satellite GPS to score points
Once out on the course, teams must find their checkpoints and then mark them officially with this handheld satellite GPS to score points

Paolo Baraldi / Rebelle Rally

The mapping data from team check-ins is collated in a database and scored based on how close to the actual checkpoint the team was. The closer the check-in to the actual GPS coordinates, the higher the score. Some checkpoints, usually the ones with large green flags, are easy to find and may also include information for the teams regarding things to look for on the upcoming portion of the course – such as changes in terrain due to weather.

Courses are different each year, so although the Rebelle Rally is often in the same areas of California and Nevada, where competitors go is not repetitive. This is thanks to the oddly map-focused brain of course director Jimmy Lewis, affectionately called the JPS or Jimmy Positioning System. He designs the course each year using an uncanny ability to recall every track and hidden route across California and Nevada. Miller works with him to refine the routes, placing checkpoints that are both fair and fiendish.

“Some of them are easy because they need to be,” Miller said, pointing to a nearby green flag. “Those are usually green ones. But sometimes, those green flags, like this one aren’t really checkpoints. If the teams are paying attention, they’ll know that and keep driving. If they’re lazy, though, they might click on this and receive a negative score. The real one is over there,” she says pointing to a rock with just a tip of a green flag showing over it.

Blue checkpoints are harder to find, but are still marked. They have small blue stakes in the ground where they’re located. Most aren’t visible until the competitors are very close. And then there are the Black Diamond checkpoints. These have nothing marking them or indicating their existence. They exist purely on the maps of the competitors, who received coordinates for them and must rely on their skills to find them. These Black Diamond spots are worth a lot of points, but take the most time to locate.

“This competition is mostly about time management,” said Becky Brophy of Toyota, who has competed in the Rebelle and was there this year as support. “There are only so many hours in the day to complete your run. Most of the time out there [for the teams] is spent figuring out how much time they have and whether it’s worth trying to get those few extra points and run the risk of coming in late.”

Teams launch in the mornings based on their scores the day before. Higher scores mean an earlier start, which means a higher chance of a higher score again. A later return time means a lower score for the final checkpoint. Most days consist of around 150 miles (241 km) of roads and trails. Often at speeds of less than 13 mph (20 km/h). Toyota, one of the more active manufacturers sponsoring teams this year, includes its own teams that consist of engineers and race team members who combine to make “dream teams” in the rally. Brophy was one of those. Teams this year included vehicles like the 4Runner, Sequoia, and more.

Factory sponsored teams, like Team KaiZen of Toyota, are a chance for manufacturers to dive deep into stock vehicle capabilities
Factory sponsored teams, like Team KaiZen of Toyota, are a chance for manufacturers to dive deep into stock vehicle capabilities

Aaron Turpen / New Atlas

Micaela (Mica) Rionda, of Toyota’s Team KaiZen, summed up the reason the manufacturer sponsors so heavily in the event: “I’m an executive at Toyota and we’ve been advocating for our women to join this activity as a leadership-building activity. And personally, I’ve seen the women come back [from the Rebelle], and they are more confident, they are more articulate. They are able to express their work-related concerns and presentations in a more confident manner after coming back from an event like this.”

This sentiment was echoed by other manufacturers at the event, like Ineos, Jeep, and Ford.

One of the Ford teams was in their fourth year together as a Rebelle duo and their second year as a Ford-sponsored team. Karisa Haydon and Trista Smith, together known as Team Velocity, entered their first year of the Rebelle in Karisa’s Ford Bronco Sport. After being named Rookies of the Year, the team returned for another go. Then Ford approached about a sponsorship and moving them into the 4×4 category. The team agreed. In this 2025 Rebelle Rally, they were in a Ford Ranger Raptor.

“The course is much … it’s gnarlier if you’re in the 4×4 category,” said Haydon. “So I remember seeing these ridge lines and things that we didn’t have to go to.”

Some Ford factory teams, like Team Velocity (#131), were previously independents. Trista Smith (left) and Karisa Haydon started out in Karisa's personal vehicle for their first Rebelle
Some Ford factory teams, like Team Velocity (#131), were previously independents. Trista Smith (left) and Karisa Haydon started out in Karisa’s personal vehicle for their first Rebelle

Aaron Turpen / New Atlas

Much of the Rebelle competition boils down to the team, not the vehicle. I asked several teams about the relationship in the cab and that eight grueling days of maybe getting on each other’s nerves.

“So as far as, like, getting on each other’s nerves,” Smith said, “there’s not really.. there’s never been an issue, which is good. I think that’s why we’re still so strong four years in a row.”

Hayden agreed. “You know, when we get the chance to talk to rookie teams or people who are thinking about this, and we’re like, oh, your team selection is so important. Your vehicle’s likely going to be fine and make it. It’s likely not your vehicle that’s going to be problematic. It’s most likely the relationship in the car that’s going to be problematic.”

Factory teams also get the chance to see the vehicles up close and personal in a less controlled environment. “As an engineer, sometimes you get in the old vehicle, and you’re looking at the layout and maybe making proposals for the next one,” said Rionda. “But again, you’re in it for a few hours, maybe. You drive it around a test track somewhere. It’s always very controlled, because that’s how you test, right? But this environment, you have no idea what you’re going to run into. So the results of how the vehicle performs in these unknown situations, I think, is a really unique experience. It’s great that these engineers are able to explain” things not noticed on a shorter drive.

The morning of Day 1 for the Rebelle 2025 as competitors receive their lists of checkpoint coordinates and begin mapping
The morning of Day 1 for the Rebelle 2025 as competitors receive their lists of checkpoint coordinates and begin mapping

Aaron Turpen / New Atlas

Behind the scenes, organized chaos is the norm at the Rebelle Rally. While the competitors are pitching tents, mapping, and checking gear, team members for the Rebelle are cooking food, setting up and tearing down base camps, and driving a semi-truck-load of water. Every evening, after the Rebelles enter camp for the night, technicians and coordinators are analyzing data and verifying scores. During dinner, competitors eagerly await the score postings to see where they’ll be starting the next day. And many unpack their phones which have been locked away all day to check messages and send “Did well today!” messages to family.

Throughout dinner, the term “badass” was used constantly to describe participants and organizers. It’s basically everyone involved’s nickname. And it fits. This is especially apparent in the mornings when teams receive their checkpoint coordinates and begin mapping.

As navigators pore over maps and plot points, drivers tear down tents and pack their vehicles. Most of the modifications made to vehicles, Brophy told me, center on storage. Teams carry everything they need, and sometimes camp unsupported for days.

The vehicles themselves are mostly factory stock. Tires and safety equipment change, of course, but for the most part, the manufacturers and independents fielding vehicles are not making major changes to them. The majority of competitors are independent, fielding personal vehicles and finding their own sponsorships. One such team is Beyond the Pavement, made up of Lynn Kliem and Toni Crites in a 2021 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon. Retired nurses, the team is purely in it for the challenge.

“Lynn and I have been friends for over 30 years,” said Crites. “We saw the EPCOT presentation featuring the Gazelle Rally in Morocco. Lynn said she thought that would be fun. Then Google led us to the Rebelle Rally website.”

Throughout the eight days, competitors are allowed to help one another, but outsiders must remain hands off. Rebelles often help one another get out of sticky situations, hold down tents in the wind as stakes are driven in, and so on. Rebelle organizers and staff are only allowed to intervene for safety reasons or when specifically requested. In the latter case, that will usually cost the team points or time. Out on the course, teams are responsible for tire changes and most other mechanical issues. Unlike speed-based competitions, however, most flat tires or broken equipment in the Rebelle Rally are due to environmental hazards rather than harsh punishment.

“For most Rebelles,” Miller said, “their shovels are their most-used tool while they’re out there.”

Navigators plot carefully and must be both accurate and quick. Time is limited for Rebelles, as this practice session for Prologue Day demonstrated
Navigators plot carefully and must be both accurate and quick. Time is limited for Rebelles, as this practice session for Prologue Day demonstrated

Aaron Turpen / New Atlas

So where’s the speed in the Rebelle? It’s all in the brains of its participants. The women who compete in this rally must make rapid decisions, relying on their skills, and be confident in their choices once made. Miller said that it’s easy to second-guess a checkpoint’s location if you’re overthinking. “The best competitors are confident,” she says. “They don’t question whether their plot points are accurate. They know they are.”

That’s how Nena Barlow and Teralin Petereit (title photo) once again took first place this year. And why Haydon and Smith took second. Most of the top 10 Rebelle Rally scores for 2025 were in unmodified vehicles from the Stock class. The Rebelle had a whole roster of badasses.

21 people killed in Kenyan landslide following heavy rainfall

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The Kenyan government has confirmed that 21 people have died following a landslide in the western part of the country after heavy rainfall.

Interior Minister Kipchumba Murkomen said the bodies had been transferred to a nearby airstrip after the landslide in Marakwet East late on Friday night.

He said on X that more than 30 people were still unaccounted for after being reported missing by their families while 25 people with serious injuries had been airlifted to receive further medical attention.

The Kenyan Red Cross, which is helping to coordinate rescue efforts, said that the most affected areas are still not accessible by road due to mudslides and flash flooding.

The Kenyan government paused the search and rescue operation on Saturday evening but said it would resume on Sunday.

“Preparation to supply more food and non-food relief items to the victims is underway,” said Murkomen, adding: “Military and police choppers are on standby to transport the items.”

Kenya is in its second rainy season when it usually experiences a few weeks of wet weather compared to a heavier, more prolonged period earlier in the year.

The government has urged people living near seasonal rivers as well as areas that experienced landslides on Friday to move to safer ground.

Meanwhile, flash flooding and landslides in Uganda, near the border with Kenya, have killed a number of people since last Wednesday.

On Saturday, the Uganda Red Cross said another mudslide had occurred in Kapsomo village in the east of the country, destroying a house and killing four people inside.

The Red Cross said floods had severely affected most villages near riverbanks in the Bulambuli District.

It said continuous heavy rainfall had caused the River Astiri and the River Sipi “to overflow, resulting in widespread destruction of homes, crop fields, and community infrastructure”.

YouTube ad revenues in the US reached $10.3 billion in Q3 2025, showing a 15% increase year-over-year, with Shorts now generating more revenue per watch hour than long-form content.

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The growth of YouTube’s ad revenues continues to accelerate, jumping 15% YoY in the third quarter.

YouTube advertising brought in $10.26 billion in Q3 2025, Alphabet said in its latest earnings report. That marks the first time the number surpassed $10 billion in a third quarter.

The growth was “driven by direct response advertising, followed by brand,” said Anat Ashkenazi, CFO of Google and parent company Alphabet, on the company’s Q3 investor call Wednesday (October 29).

Alphabet doesn’t break out subscriber numbers specifically for YouTube Music, YouTube Premium and YouTube TV, but the company’s subscriptions, platforms and devices segment saw revenue jump 21% YoY in the quarter, to $12.9 billion.

The most recent update on YouTube Music subscribers came in March, when Google reported 125 million paid Music and Premium subscriptions worldwide – an increase of 150% since mid-2021, when it counted 50 million.

Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai said on the earnings call that Google’s total paid subscriptions passed 300 million during the quarter, led by growth in cloud storage service Google One and YouTube Premium.


Source: Alphabet

The company’s latest numbers also highlighted the growing importance of YouTube Shorts, the short video format YouTube launched in 2021 to compete with TikTok.

“In the US, Shorts now earn more revenue per watch hour than traditional in-stream on YouTube,” Pichai said on the call.

However, the company issued a caution on YouTube’s ad revenues for the upcoming final quarter of this year, with Chief Business Officer Philipp Schindler predicting that the numbers “will be negatively impacted by the strong spend on US elections in the fourth quarter of 2024.”

Overall, Alphabet reported earnings that blew past analysts’ expectations, with total revenues passing the $100-billion mark for the first time. The company’s $102.3 billion in revenue was up 15% YoY on a constant currency basis.

Net income jumped 33% YoY to $34.98 billion, and earnings per share came in at $2.87, beating expectations of $2.33 among economists polled by LSEG, as cited by CNBC.

A good deal of that growth was driven by AI, Pichai said. “We are seeing AI now driving real business results across the company.”

At YouTube, AI is now “streamlining the entire content creation workflow from generated video tools and more efficient editing to AI-powered insights that help creators optimize their channels,” Pichai added.

“We are also using AI to expand monetization, automatically identifying products to make their videos more shoppable.”

On the earnings call, Schindler highlighted a fact that is well-known within the music industry – that paid subscriptions are better revenue drivers than ad-supported subscriptions.

“On average, a YouTube Music and Premium subscriber generates a meaningful higher gross profit than if they were simply ad-supported users,” he said.

“On average, a YouTube Music and Premium subscriber generates a meaningful higher gross profit than if they were simply ad-supported users.”

Philipp Schindler, Alphabet

Nevertheless, Google remains committed to its strategy of monetizing YouTube via both ads and subscriptions.

Earlier this month, YouTube Global Head of Music Lyor Cohen said the platform’s “twin-engine model” of ads and subscriptions is “firing on all cylinders,” and revealed YouTube had paid out $8 billion to music rightsholders in the year from July 2024 to June 2025.

That brings YouTube close to matching Spotify as a source of music revenue. Spotify paid out $10 billion in music royalties in 2024.

The $8 billion payout “is not an endpoint,” Cohen said. “It represents meaningful, sustained progress in our journey to build a long-term home for every artist, songwriter, and publisher on the global stage.”


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Ukraine deploys special forces to eastern city of Pokrovsk in response to Russian offensive | Latest updates on Russia-Ukraine conflict

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Ukrainian army chief says effort continues ‘to destroy and dislodge’ Russian forces from strategic Donetsk region city.

Ukraine has deployed special forces to the embattled eastern city of Pokrovsk, the country’s top military commander said, as Kyiv seeks to maintain control of the area amid an intense Russian offensive.

Russia has been trying to capture Pokrovsk, dubbed “the gateway to Donetsk”, since mid-2024 in its campaign to control the entirety of the eastern Donetsk region.

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“We are holding Pokrovsk,” Ukraine’s army chief Oleksandr Syrskii said on Facebook on Saturday. “A comprehensive operation to destroy and dislodge enemy forces from Pokrovsk is ongoing.”

Home to more than 60,000 people before the Russia-Ukraine war began in February 2022, Pokrovsk lies on a major supply route for the Ukrainian army.

Taking control of the city would be the most important Russian territorial gain inside Ukraine since Moscow took over Avdiivka in early 2024 after one of the bloodiest battles of the conflict.

Russia and Ukraine have presented conflicting accounts of what has been happening in Pokrovsk in recent days.

The Russian Ministry of Defence on Saturday claimed its forces had defeated the team of Ukrainian special forces that were sent to the city. It later posted videos showing two men it said were Ukrainians who had surrendered.

The footage shows the men, one dressed in fatigues and the other in a dark green jacket, sitting against a peeling wall in a dark room, as they speak of fierce fighting and encirclement by Russian forces.

The video’s authenticity could not be independently verified, and there was no immediate public comment from Kyiv on the Russian ministry’s claims.

Russian President Vladimir Putin claimed last week that his forces had encircled the city’s Ukrainian defenders.

But Syrskii, the Ukrainian army chief, said on Saturday that while the situation in Pokrovsk remains “hardest” for Ukrainian forces, there is no encirclement or blockade as Russia has claimed.

“The main burden lies on the shoulders of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, particularly UAV operators and assault units,” Syrskii said.

For his part, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy acknowledged on Friday that some Russian units had infiltrated Pokrovsk, but he insisted that Kyiv is weeding them out.

Russian officials say control of Pokrovsk and Kostiantynivka to its northeast would allow Moscow to drive north towards the two biggest remaining Ukrainian-controlled cities in Donetsk – Kramatorsk and Sloviansk.

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Two additional suspects charged in Louvre jewelry theft

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© RMN - Grand Palais (Musée du Louvre) Mathieu Rabeau A jewelled crown with sapphires - Parure Marie-Amélie diadème© RMN – Grand Palais (Musée du Louvre) Mathieu Rabeau

Precious crown jewels including the Parure Marie-Amélie diadème are yet to be recovered

Two more people have been charged over a theft at the Louvre Museum in Paris last month, French media report.

A 38-year-old woman, who has not been named, is being prosecuted for complicity in organised theft and criminal conspiracy with a view to committing a crime. Another person was also charged on Saturday. Details are yet to be made public.

The two were detained earlier this week with three others. Two men who had previously been arrested were already charged with theft and criminal conspiracy after officials said they had “partially recognised” their involvement in the heist.

Jewels worth €88m (£76m; $102m) were taken from the world’s most-visited museum on 19 October.

Louvre Museum A silver necklace with green jewels stolen during the Louvre heistLouvre Museum
Louvre Museum A gold tiara encrusted with diamonds and pearls stolen from the LouvreLouvre Museum

The Marie-Louise necklace and a pair of earrings were among the eight items stolen

A tiara worn by the Empress Eugenie, wife of Napoleon III, was taken

Four men carried out the lightning-quick daylight theft.

Two of the alleged thieves – who had been arrested earlier – later admitted their involvement. Another person arrested this week is thought to have taken part in the heist, while the fourth has not yet been caught.

On Saturday, the woman who has been charged was in tears as she appeared before a magistrate and confirmed that she lived in Paris’s northern suburb of La Courneuve, a journalist working for the AFP news agency reported.

The magistrate later ruled that she must stay in custody.

Another person was also charged – it was not immediately known what the charges were.

The two were among the five people arrested earlier this week in and around the French capital. Three of those held have been released without charge.

Watch: Two people leave Louvre in lift mounted to vehicle

On the day of the heist, the robbers arrived at 09:30 (07:30 GMT), just after the museum opened to visitors, Paris prosecutor Laure Beccuau said last week.

The suspects arrived with a stolen vehicle-mounted mechanical lift to gain access to the Galerie d’Apollon (Gallery of Apollo) via a balcony close to the River Seine. The men used a disc cutter to crack open display cases housing the jewellery.

Prosecutors said the thieves were inside for four minutes and made their escape on two scooters waiting outside at 09:38, before switching to cars.

One of the stolen items – a crown – was dropped during the escape. The other seven jewels have not been found.

It was later revealed by the Louvre’s director that the only camera monitoring the Galerie d’Apollon was pointing away from a balcony the thieves climbed over to break in.

Since the incident, security measures have been tightened around France’s cultural institutions.

The Louvre has transferred some of its most precious jewels to the Bank of France following the heist.

Unum Group Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript Reveals Resilient Growth Despite Market Challenges

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Carney, Canada’s representative, apologizes to Trump for Reagan anti-tariff ad, says report | Politics Update

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Canadian PM says anti-tariff ad featuring Ronald Reagan ‘offended’ Trump, who has since cut off trade talks with Canada.

Canada’s Prime Minister Mark Carney says he apologised to Donald Trump over an anti-tariff advertisement that has drawn the United States president’s ire and disrupted trade talks between the two countries.

During a news conference in South Korea at the end of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit on Saturday, Carney stressed that he is responsible for negotiating Canada’s ties with its largest trading partner.

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“I did apologise to the president. The president was offended,” the prime minister said of the advertisement, which was produced by the Canadian province of Ontario.

“I’m the one who’s responsible, in my role as prime minister, for our relationship with the president of the United States, and the federal government is responsible for the foreign relationship with the US government,” Carney added.

“So, things happen – we take the good with the bad – and I apologised.”

The US-Canada relationship has deteriorated over the past year amid Trump’s global tariffs push, which saw him impose steep duties on his country’s northern neighbour.

Ontario’s commercial, which featured a 1980s speech by former US President Ronald Reagan in which Reagan said tariffs can lead to “fierce trade wars” and unemployment, worsened that already tense situation.

The Trump administration suspended trade talks with Canada over the advertisement, which Washington has claimed misrepresented Reagan’s views and sought to unfairly influence a looming US Supreme Court decision on Trump’s tariff policy.

Last weekend, the US government also announced an additional 10 percent levy on Canadian goods after the commercial was not immediately pulled from broadcasts in the US.

On Friday, Trump told reporters that he did not plan to resume trade negotiations with Canada despite getting an apology from Carney.

“I have a very good relationship, I like him a lot – but you know, what they did was wrong,” the US president said.

“He [Carney] was very nice, he apologised for what they did with the commercial because it was a false commercial. It was the exact opposite; Ronald Reagan loved tariffs and they tried to make it look the other way.”

The Ontario commercial used real excerpts of Reagan’s speech, but the statements were presented in a different order than how they were originally delivered.

The US and Canada, which share the world’s longest land border, traded $761.8bn worth of goods last year, according to the Office of the US Trade Representative.

Nvidia CEO remains optimistic about selling Blackwell chips to China

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Nvidia Corp. Chief Executive Officer Jensen Huang still hopes to sell chips from the company’s Blackwell lineup to customers in China, though he has no current plans to do so, he told reporters Friday.

Asked whether Nvidia intends to sell AI accelerators from that family of products in the Asian country, the tech chief said, “I don’t know. I hope so someday.” 

Huang’s comments came a day after US President Donald Trump said he didn’t discuss the prospect of Blackwell chip sales in a meeting with Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping, despite saying earlier that he would do so. US Trade Representative Jamieson Greer, asked whether Blackwell chip sales to China would be discussed more going forward, said “I don’t think that’s on the table right now.”

Huang, speaking Friday in South Korea, expressed optimism that might change. “No decisions have been made, and we’ll see how it turns out,” said Huang, 62, of Nvidia’s Blackwell export plans. “I hope it turns out well.” The Nvidia chief said earlier this week that the company hasn’t applied for Washington’s permission to sell Blackwell chips to China, permits that are required under export controls first imposed in 2022.

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The Blackwell family of chips is Nvidia’s latest generation of artificial intelligence semiconductors and the industrial standard for developing and running large language models like OpenAI’s ChatGPT. The processors have capabilities that far surpass those of semiconductors that Washington effectively banned from export to China several years ago, as well as anything that’s currently available from Chinese competitors like Huawei Technologies Co. 

Selling those products to China, as Huang hopes to do, would require a dramatic departure from the Trump administration’s stated approach to the tech competition between the world’s two largest economies. Still, the president had put it on the table. Trump said months ago that he’d be open to allowing China shipments of an unspecified, downgraded Blackwell chip. Ahead of his meeting with Xi, Trump said he’d discuss the “super duper” Blackwell accelerators with the Chinese leader — remarks that helped make Nvidia the first $5 trillion business by market value. 

But while Trump and Xi did discuss Nvidia’s access to China in general, Trump said after the meeting, those talks did not touch on Blackwell chip approvals: “We’re not talking about the Blackwell,” Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One. “That just came out yesterday.”

Back in Washington, China hawks breathed a sigh of relief. Many US officials had worried that Trump, in an effort to reach a broader trade deal with Beijing, might give away what they consider to be the country’s strongest technological asset — and one with significant national security implications. Concern about Blackwell chip sales to the Asian country is one of the primary motivations behind a bipartisan congressional measure that could have major implications for Huang’s hopes for the China market.

The legislation, an earlier version of which has already passed the Senate, would require chipmakers like Nvidia to prioritize American customers before selling chips to buyers in arms-embargoed countries, including China. Hours after Trump and Xi concluded their meeting, lawmakers introduced the highly-anticipated bill to the US House of Representatives.

One congressional staffer, who requested not to be identified, described a sense of uncertainty akin to a fog of war when asked how Trump’s stance on Blackwell chips was playing on Capitol Hill.

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Nvidia has criticized trade restrictions as hamstringing US competitiveness and lobbied aggressively against chip export controls more broadly. “I think it’s really good for America and it’s really good for China that Nvidia could participate in the Chinese market,” Huang said Friday. Nvidia’s argument is that restricting Chinese AI developers from using American chips will only push them toward domestic alternatives.

To be sure, participating in China would also be really good for Nvidia: the world’s most valuable company wrote down billions of dollars in revenue earlier this year when Trump’s team restricted sales of a less-advanced processor called the H20. Washington later reversed course and greenlit H20 chip shipments, but Beijing has discouraged Chinese companies from using those accelerators.

Trump said Thursday that Nvidia and the Chinese government will have to keep talking about the chipmaker’s access to the Asian nation’s market, which is the world’s biggest for semiconductors. Huang, though, said the topic didn’t come up during his meeting Friday with Ren Hongbin, Chairman of the China Council for the Promotion of International Trade. 

“We were just talking mostly about enjoying each other’s company,” Huang said.

Age Group Swimming Weekly Highlights by Spectrum Aquatics: 11/1/2025

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By James Sutherland on SwimSwam

Brought to you by Spectrum Aquatics, a SwimSwam partner, our Weekly Wonders of Age Group Swimming series celebrates swimmers of every age and experience level with age group profiles of some recent results.

Derek Hernandez-Ojeda, 15, Nitro Swimming (ST): Hernandez-Ojeda set five best times two weeks ago at the Longhorn Aquatics 11 & Over Fall Kickoff, highlighted by his performance in the 200 back. The Nitro Swimming product dropped more than five seconds to clock 1:47.16, ranking him 1st this season in the boys’ 15-16 age group despite still being 15. He also set bests in the 200 fly (1:50.28) and 400 IM (3:58.60) to rank 4th this season in the 15-16 age group, and added PBs in the 500 free (4:44.49) and 100 fly (51.19).

Vera Chen, 11, Long Island Aquatic Club (MR): Chen set PBs in every event she raced at LIAC’s Chappy Invitational last weekend in East Meadow, including a nation-leading time in the 100 free. Chen knocked more than five seconds off her best time, dropping from 1:01.01 to 55.77, to rank 1st this season among 11-year-old girls and 16th in the 11-12 age group. She also set a best of 2:02.62 in the 200 free to rank 5th this season among 11-year-old girls, and 2:19.81 in the 200 IM to rank 13th. She added bests in the 100 back (1:05.81), 100 breast (1:16.19) and 100 fly (1:05.41).

Harrison Banks, 14, Baylor Swim Club (SE): Banks set six personal bests at the Martha Bass Invitational two weeks ago in Chattanooga, including breaking a monumental barrier in the 1650 free. Banks, 14, clocked 15:59.59 to crack the 16:00 barrier and slash more than 40 seconds off his previous best time of 16:39.72, set in February. The swim also ranks him 3rd this season in the boys’ 13-14 age group, while he moved to 10th in the 400 IM this season with his swim of 4:14.41, and 27th in the 200 IM after clocking 2:00.33. He added bests in the 50 free (22.91), 200 breast (2:17.70) and 100 fly (55.24).

Gabby Green, 14, Parkway-Rockwood Gateway Swim Club (OZ): Green put up five best times at the Jim Devine Memorial Invite in Columbia, Mo., moving into the top four in the girls’ 13-14 age group this season in four of them. Green set a PB of 2:02.83 in the 200 IM to rank 2nd this season in the 13-14 age group, while her swims in the 500 free (4:58.18), 100 fly (56.41) and 200 fly (2:04.66) all rank 4th this season. She also cracked 25 seconds for the first time in the 50 free, leading off the Gateway Swim Club 200 free relay in 24.80.

Connor Ventura, 12, Maui Swim Club (HI): Ventura established five lifetime bests at the 25th Annual Bill Smith Invitational in Waipahu, cracking the top 10 in the boys’ 11-12 age group this season in four of them. The Maui Swim Club product now ranks 3rd this season in the 200 IM (2:04.76), 4th in the 50 free (23.43), 7th in the 50 fly (25.69) and 8th in the 50 breast (30.16), while he also set s PB in the 100 breast (1:06.78) to rank 13th this season. His swim in the 200 IM also marked a new Hawaii Swimming LSC record for 11-12 boys.

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